The U.S. needs global trade. However, the country needs to be smart about the policies around it, including tariffs, one local expert says.
Scott Martens — who cut his supply-chain chops in the military, worked for Twin Cities companies and now is a University of St. Thomas professor — says the discussion around supply chains and tariffs needs to include national security implications.
A former Navy officer, Martens flew S-3B Viking multimission jets off carriers USS Enterprise and USS Nimitz in the first Gulf War. After teaching at the University of Minnesota, the University of Iowa graduate now is a professor of supply chains and business analytics at St. Thomas’ Opus College of Business and a consultant.
We asked him about the current tariff uncertainty, especially in regard to China, and its effects on the supply chain. The interview has been edited for length and clarity.

Q: How are tariffs today different than the supply-chain crisis that occurred during the COVID-19 pandemic?
A: I like to say COVID-19 was as much a supply-chain crisis as it was a health care crisis. Today, I like to say tariffs are not only about economic security but also national security. And what do both COVID and tariffs have in common? They impact global supply chains.
I often say, Americans will not fully appreciate the national security aspect of tariffs and global trade, until one day their iPhones no longer work — because our adversaries have shut down critical supplies.
Tariffs are not only an economic play but also a national security play that requires us to fundamentally and strategically rethink our sources of supply and the supply chains that move them.